Ask the Expert- Is Medicare Enough to Cover Mom's Nursing Home Stay?

Published: Fri, 04/12/13


 
 

          Ask the Expert- Your Elder Law Questions Answered by Evan H. Farr, CELA
 
         Ask the Expert- Is Medicare Enough to 
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   Q. My 86 year old mother had a stroke last week, was in the hospital, 
   and was moved to a nursing home for rehabilitation.  I was
   wondering about Medicare coverage. Does Medicare cover nursing
   home stays? What if she needs more than the 100 days I read about?
 
   A. Many people believe that Medicare covers nursing home stays. It is true
   that Medicare covers up to 100 days of short-term rehabilitation per illness, but
   there are a number of requirements that must be met before this short-term
   rehab stay will be covered. The result of these requirements is that Medicare
   recipients are often discharged from a nursing home before they are ready.
 
   In order for a nursing home stay to be covered by Medicare:

·        The patient must enter a Medicare-approved "skilled nursing facility" or nursing home within 30 days after a hospital stay that lasted at least three days.

·        The short-term rehabilitation care received in the nursing home must be for the same condition as the hospital stay. In addition, you must need "skilled care." This means a physician must order the treatment and the treatment must be provided daily by a registered nurse, physical therapist, or licensed practical nurse.

·        Finally, Medicare only covers "acute" care as opposed to custodial care. This means it covers care only for people who are likely to recover from their conditions, not care for people who need ongoing help with performing everyday activities, such as bathing or dressing.
 
   It is important to understand that Medicare does not pay one penny for
   long-term care. (This section is excerpted from Evan H. Farr, CELA's book
   "Nursing Home Survival Guide- Helping You Protect Your Loved Ones Who
   Need Nursing Home Care by Preserving Dignity, Quality of Life, and
   Financial Security," available on Amazon.com) 
 
   "If you are enrolled in a traditional Medicare plan, and you've been in the
   hospital at least three days, and you are admitted directly from the 
   hospital into a rehab facility (which are typically skilled nursing facilities)
   for short-term rehabilitation (i.e., therapy and treatment designed to
   make you better), then Medicare should pay the full cost of this short-
   term rehab stay for the first 20 days, and may continue to pay part of the
   cost of the short-term rehab stay for the next 80 days -- with a per day
   deductible that you must pay privately (although there are Medicare
   supplement insurance policies that sometimes cover that deductible).
   There is also a Medicare Managed Care Plan, for which the 3-day hospital
   stay may not be required, and for which the deductible for days 21
   through 100 is waived, provided certain strict qualifying rules are met.
   But whether the plan is traditional Medicare or Medicare Managed Care
   (MMC), the nursing home resident must be receiving daily rehabilitative
   care and must be improving. Medicare does not pay for long-term care,
   i.e., for custodial nursing home stays or in-home care.
 
  In a best case scenario, traditional Medicare or MMC will provide some
   coverage for the hospital stay and rehabilitation of up to 100 days for
   each "spell of illness" (although in our experience coverage usually falls
   far short of the 100-day maximum). If you recover sufficiently that you do
   not require a Medicare-covered care benefit for 60 consecutive days, you
   may be eligible for another benefit period, i.e., another 100 days of
   Medicare coverage, but the illness or disorder must not be a chronic
   degenerative condition from which you will not recover.

 

   What happens if you've used up the 100 days of coverage and still need 
   more rehabilitation, or if you need to move into long-term nursing home
   care? You're back to one of the alternatives outlined above: long-term
   care insurance, paying the bills with your own assets, or qualifying for
   Medicaid."

 

   Did you know that nursing homes in Northern Virginia cost 10-12K a
   month? For typical middle-class people who pay out of pocket, these
   costs will most likely drain all of their hard-earned assets pretty quickly.
   For more information, read our recent blog post "How Can I Afford a
   Nursing Home?".

 

   Do you have a loved one who is in a nursing home or nearing the need
   for nursing home care? Or are you simply looking to plan ahead in the
   event nursing home care is needed in the future?  Life Care Planning and
    Medicaid Asset Protection is the process of protecting your assets from
   having to be spent down in connection with entry into a nursing home,
   while also helping ensure that you or your loved one get the best
   possible care and maintain the highest possible quality of life, whether
   at home, in an assisted living facility, or in a nursing home. Learn more
   1888 to make an appointment for a no-cost consultation. 

                         
Critter Corner- Featuring Big Red the Betta Fish
 
Dear Big Red,

We are looking for assisted living facilities for my dad. The brochures are nice, but I really want to find a good fit for him. What are some questions we should ask when we visit the facilities?

Thanks!

Candice B. DePlace

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Dear Candice,
If you're in the market for assisted living housing you've seen your fair share of glossy promotional materials.  And, while it's nice to find a well landscaped facility with new carpet, it's more important to fully understand a facility's policies and practices to see if it is a good fit. When you're at a facility make sure to ask some deeper questions such as the following:
  1.     What types of care are you licensed to provide?
  2.     What are the staff's qualifications and training?
  3.     What services are not covered or available at the facility?
  4.     What type of assistance is available for the administration of medications?
  5.     How do you assess the needs of residents over time?
  6.     What are the criteria for discharging residents if their health changes?
  7.     Does your staff provide recurring care needs 24/7? (Some facilities' overnight staff is only available to deal with emergencies.)
  8.     What is the current occupancy rate of the facility? (You want a facility to be about 75 percent full. Any less than that, and the facility may have to start cutting services to keep costs down. Much higher than that, and the facility will feel free to raise price. You want a facility that values you as a customers, but isn't desperate.)

 

Also, what could be a better indicator than your own observations and gut feelings. Keep these things in mind when you are visiting assisted living facilities:

What to look for in the staff:

  • Do they have time to speak with you or does it feel rushed?
  • Do they appear genuinely interested in you?
  • Do they interact warmly with current residents?
  • How do they handle emergencies?

What to look for in the residents:

  • Do they appear happy?
  • Do they enjoy interacting with one another?
  • Do they seem like people you'd enjoy getting to know?
  • Are there hobbies or groups on site that look interesting

In the book, The Nursing Home Survival Guide- Helping You Protect Your Loved Ones Who Need Nursing Home Care by Preserving Dignity, Quality of Life, and Financial Security," Evan H. Farr, CELA, provides invaluable information and guidance to families dealing with the possibility of nursing home care and struggling to make the best decisions for themselves or their loves ones.  If you are looking at Nursing Homes (or Assisted Living Facilities), Mr. Farr provides access to a valuable Nursing Home Evaluation Tool. Readers will also become educated about the rights of nursing home residents, estate and Incapacity Planning, How to Find the Best Lawyer, and more. The "Nursing Home Survival Guide- Helping You Protect Your Loved Ones Who Need Nursing Home Care by Preserving Dignity, Quality of Life, and Financial Security" is now available on Amazon.com.

Be sure to plan ahead, should the unexpected happen. Call 703-691-1888 to make an appointment for a no-cost consultation.

For some stress relief and to see me and some equally adorable Siamese cats (Saki and Alley) and a bunny (Commander Bun Bun), we encourage you to stop by The Law Firm of Evan H Farr and pet us all (except me, the fish, of course!). Looking forward to seeing you soon!

P.S. Don't forget about your pet! Evan Farr just posted about Pet Trusts in Everything Elder Law. Check it out here!

About Big Red:

Big Red has lived at The Farr Law Firm for two years, and he belongs to Evan and Jeannie Farr. He resides on the table behind Jeannie's desk and his bowl can often be found on the hall table when you get off the elevator. He loves socializing with the African Dwarf Frogs (Ernie and Jannette) and greeting all of the clients that come to the firm. 


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